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| | | Relaxing drinking laws to extend opening hours has to increase by definition the opportunity for excessive drinking to occur, so why is Govn't convinced it'll do the reverse?
Stopping smoking in pubs has to make people go elsewhere for a drink and smoke. Abroad the weather means that even if you obey the law (the French are classic for not doing when it suits),... |
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| | | Of course they made it worse, what have they made better exactly? Please let me know....
They increase the price but re-invest zero in terms of helping people directly with alcohol problems.
They know that people are suffering in their millions but dont know how they can help them.
They know that if they invest in treating the problem they will save £5 for ever £1 as well... |
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| | | Is it me or do people who earn a low wage drink and smoke more than others? |
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| | Simon | |
| | | Yes I have noticed this too!
Its almost like they have been programmed to.......... |
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| | | i have to agree with that.
Some of my friends who are unemployed can spend between 50-100 pound per week on alcahol!
I am in employment and i generally spend about £30 per week (unless im really letting my hair down!)
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| | Hayley | |
| | | I suffer from alcoholic constipation,
I just can't pass a pub. |
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| | | I HAVE JUST RETURNED FROM FRANCE AND EACH YEAR I GO CAMPING IN FRANCE ITALY OR SPAIN.
NEVER DO I SEE ANY SAD AGRESSIVE VIOLENT DRUNKEN BEHAVIOUR.
WHAT I DO SEE IS PEOPLE ENJOYING THEMSELVES INVOLVED IN ALL KINDS OF SPORT,HOBBIES,EXERCISE,THE OPEN AIR,MUSIC,SOCIALISING AND EATING WITH FRIENDS AND FAMILY (WITH OR WITHOUT ALCOHOL AND IN MODERATION.)
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| | MIKE RUTHERFORD - GREATER MANCHESTER | |
| | | I agree with your comments but what should be done to change behaviours. Perhaps reverting back to 1950's where the only place that alcohol could be bought was at an off license attached to a pub? (in other words take it out of supermarkets) Perhaps our police should use guns (tasar or whatever) and use them as the police would do in France/Spain (while where at it lets g... |
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| | sensible drinker | |
| | | I agree;until a change in culture and attitude occurs in England things will not change!
We refuse to holiday in certain resorts UK and abroad so we dont have to suffer the embaracement.Sadly the capital of Jersey and the Isle of Man both suffer drunks. |
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| | Mel Greater Mannchester | |
| | | I think that these drinks should stop being sold completly, as they increase consumption in the underage. They are given easily drinkable flavours, unlike normal beers and spirits.
If this is not possible, then I think that they should be taxed very heavily, so the younger end cannot buy them. |
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| | | I do agree with that they should be taxed heavily to stop over usage from the underage, but I do not think this is a solution to the problem no more.
I also think that these drinks are far to easy to get hold of, maybe the age for drinking should be increased. |
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| | ste gould | |
| | | i happen to disagree on this one.
I dont think you can stop selling them as this is unfair on ppl like myself who enjoy that particular type of drink, & i am 22 so think i am allowed to!
However i drink in moderation and sensibly.
The problem here lies in the fact that they are sold to freely to u... |
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| | Hayley | |
| | | i was listening to Cheshire FM on Friday, there was a lady on there who i thought was very brave, she was telling us about her life in drink and how she had lost everything Husbend, bissness and nearly cost her a life. she went to turning point that helps with peaple with drug and drinking problems.
at the time of the the program i could not contribute to the content has i have my... |
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| | | To many people drink to excess and really don't enjoy the
experiece,eg the taste Real Ales provide a drink experience
much like wines. Real lager from Belgium and Germany etc
also contribute to the experience!
Moderation is true temperance a Yates wine lodge advert
used to say which is probably right.
Prohi... |
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| | Khalied | |
| | | But whats your point or question Khaleid?!
Dont believe everything you see on TV either, get yourself to an 'open' meeting of Alcoholics Anonymous and find out more about why some people cannot drink safetly and enjoy.
People most people drink in excess on a regular basis since they got a problem with the stuff despite the huge amount of denial (Approx 95% of people who have a d... |
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| | Mick | |
| | | I agree. The real ale scene is about managing drink sensibly - the first thing you observe is that real ale drinkers go for halves and sometimes the less alcoholic varieties as they want to be able to continue to taste their tipple.
The supermarkets are the real devils as they encourage consumption of everything. They run hand in glove with the oil industry... |
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| | Jim F | |
| | | You may have a point but most of the people I know drink to socialise and out of boredom. Pub and clubs no longer exist in the drinking culture. It is now buy cheap booze from another outlet and drink and smoke in comfort and none of the hassle getiing home. |
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| | Simon | |
| | | Is drinking costing you more than money?
0845 7697 555 24 hour helpline
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| | | During what was supposed to be a fun game of football with my family in a local park, we were verbally racially attacked by a women (accompanied by a man, but who didn't actually say anything) who was clearly drunk and yet carrying another can of alcohol in her hand.
It made me sick to have to have to be subjected to that, and we could have retaliated, howe... |
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| | Anon | |
| | | Alcohol and football go hand-in-hand unfortunately. Alcohol fuelled racism and hooliganism at matches is one reason why I absolutely hate the sport and think it's an embarrassment that it attracts the crowd it does. |
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| | nigel_g | |
| | | the supermarkets now sell top branded products like bulmers, stella, and fosters at below cost price as a loss leader,
pubs and bars can not afford to do this as they have a duty of care to provide and a level of legislation to uphold with in each of there outlets
the supermarkets do not care what happens to there product once it has left the check out!
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| | mark ruby | |
| | | If anyone is 'to blame' it ispeople who drink too much. Tesco or Mitchells & Butlers don't go on a drunken rampage every Saturday night.
People need to take some responsibility. |
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| | Francis Rossi | |
| | | I think the true blame rests with us alcoholics! |
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| | waddy | |
| | | Wake up everone! As well as those that drink it, what about the government that have lacked responsibility on many fronts:-
1. Lack of admitting they are the problem. How many times recently have you heard them call, its the supermarkets, its the parents, its alcopops, its controlable?!
When the government admits that Alcoholism is a treatable illness with the right services and r... |
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| | recovering lancy alcy | |
| | | The government is to blame with introducing the smoking ban.
I would prefere to drink in the pub with friends than sit in front of the tv drinking far more than I would in the pub. |
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| | | If alcohol were only just discovered now it may be considered a Class A drug |
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| | | The government need to give the parents their powers back.
Fact is that they have taken away the ability for parents to discipline their kids and scared them into fussing over their kids.
I'm only young but i wasn't brought up with this social intervention in peoples lives.
If we were naughty we were ... |
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| | m c | |
| | | I think it's great that you have the self control and maturity to drink sensibly. The government can't tell people what to drink, they can only advise, which I believe is what they are doing. It's up to the individuals. Unfortunatley there are many without your level of restraint when it comes to drinking. But I do agree, how can any of us trust this excuse of a govern... |
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| | | I totally agree, bring back the cane! Kids talk about respect, let them respect a 4 foot bamboo, attitudes will soon change. |
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| | Take back the street | |
| | | Totall agree about teaching kids respect again. They know that nothing will happen to them - no consequences for their actions. We are breeding a culture of gang warfare and no respect for individuals with the human rights acts and the namby pamby way everything is being handled. Kids who end up in court these days are hailed heroes by their mates and treat it all as a big joke. My kids t... |
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| | Suzi G | |
| | | I agree, I was a single parent so had to keep a tight hand on the reins. I always told my kids to pray the police got to them first before I did if they ever broke the law. My kids are all now grown up, not one of them have ever been in trouble, they all work and have good morals and judgment. Dont let my first statement let you think I was a tyrant, far from it, we are a very close and lovin... |
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| | lynny | |
| | | We are told that the recommended max no of units per week of alcohol is 21 for men. Where did this figure come from ? There are plenty of genetic. size, weight, dietary, health factors which must affect this figure. After spending a day working down the coal pit a miner would drink 7 or 8 pints and think nothing of it, and it wasn't the alcohol that killed him in the end. There is plenty of ... |
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| | Ste | |
| | | I think you've probably answered your own question, Ste. In my view there probably cannot be a max sensible units because of the genetic, size etc factors. The most sensible message which can take account of these factors is probably the more you drink, the more damage you do.
I think the science is misleading on this subject and c... |
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| | Matt | |
| | | Parents teach their children how to talk, walk, cross the road safely, ride a bike, swim and other important things to equip them for life. They then shy away from teaching them to drink alcohol responsibly.
If we are open with children and young adults and show them as they grow up how to drink responsibly, allowing them the occasional drink at home with meals and on special occ... |
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| | Steve Friemann | |
| | | I totally agree in Europe alcohol is drunk at meals and their teenagers dont go out to get drunk but to socialise which i feel are two different things, i love the latest adverts to drink responsibly i think they really make you take notice |
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| | jayne | |
| | | Serious question.
Does anyone know what the UK population would be without alcohol?
The current population is roughly 60million. |
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| | Anne Staveley | |
| | | a very good question.
Population would probably be still about 60 million. The number of alcohol related deaths is increasing each year but on the other hand the number of relationships and either planned or unplanned pregnancies where alcohol was a catalyst is also increasing - possibly to the same extent. population therefore stays relatively static. |
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| | Phil | |
| | | Between 8-9 million people will be very agitated since they are addicted and the government doesnt have the right treatment facilities for them for 5% that want to give up currently, never mind the 95% that dont.
Crime will increase since they will be looting for remaining booze and we will be partially a nation of dry drunks, like president bush is, can you imagine all those beady eyed ... |
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| | Ex-Drinker, recovering alcoholic and Proud to be Sober!!!! | |
| | | Probably half of what it is now, think of all those rampant sex exploits after a night of drunkeness.
All the forgotten birth control or the mornings of throwing up, not being able to take the tablet.
How many mistakes are there out there. |
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| | ACE | |
| | | I am male, 36 years old and gay. I loved my first boyfriend so much I can't believe we are not together now - 21 years later - yes we met when we were only 15. He left me and I haven't coped since - I took to the booze soon after he left me - it just made me sleep. I carried on like this for years and had other relationships but still nothing was the same. My mum then ... |
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| | | Why should one use alcohol as a coping method as it can cause depression. Why not look at the nature in abundance and find ways of appreciating the good things that are there and in front of us rather than create more problems for yourself. Surely there are people worse of than you that you can support.
You are born alone and with nothing, so why grieve for the loss of someon... |
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| | | Sort of Alcoholic im afraid but thats only for u to decide and thats the most important step, admitting that you are powerless over the stuff (doesnt matter if its hours, days or weeks). if when u pick up a drink and cannot stop or if when u try u cannot, then u could be alcoholic, no two ways about it. I
Their is no middle of the road solution either- Ill guarantee you 2 things- You eit... |
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| | Ex-Drinker, recovering alcoholic and Proud to be Sober!!!! | |
| | | Just because you are gay, why dwell over a relationship you had in your mid-teens? Lots of us straight people had our first meaningful relationship at that age, and when it finished, although we were miserable for a time, we then moved on. Are you really that different?
I'm sorry about your mum dying when you were so young - doesn't that affect you more? You know, alcohol is a depre... |
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| | | Just because you are gay, why dwell over a relationship you had in your mid-teens? Lots of us straight people had our first meaningful relationship at that age, and when it finished, although we were miserable for a time, we then moved on. Are you really that different?
I'm sorry about your mum dying when you were so young - doesn't that affect you more? You know, alcohol is a d... |
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| | Me | |
| | | A friend of mine has had a very similar experience to you, but you know what, he has sorted himself out, lost weight, has a new boyfriend, looking for a great new job. It can be done, but you need to take stock and get on with living, there's a great world out there.
I understand the depression, my friend blamed this for his problems and to be fair it was ... |
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| | Lizzie | |
| | | i kind of went thru the same thing with alcahol as i am disabled.
I kept thinking why am i different? why me? then id drink to stop thinking, then end up worse..
But i am quite a latteral thinker.. i cud kind of see where i was going if i carried on and i didnt wanna waste my life like that.. i was who i was and cudnt change and over time i realized... |
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| | Hayley | |
| | | I have repeatedly called crime stoppers to report a regular drink driver and they have still not been caught. They do not fit into the stereotype of friday or saturday night drinking (so do not get caught by police). They drive every day and can be on the roads at 10am or 4pm and be over the limit. It is very frustrating that the police either do not take it seriously or are under resourced a... |
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| | annoyed | |
| | | I agree, police do not seem to have enough resources to target drink drivers other than the targeted Friday and Saturday nights. Having been married to an alcoholic for many years I know from personal experience how often he would drive whilst under the influence and not get caught. He was very lucky never to have caused a serious accident. |
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| | | I'd like to know how you think you know that this person is drunk driving; what it's got to do with you; & why you are carrying out this personal vendetta. Have you got nothing better to do? Let the police & fate sort him out. |
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| | | When you have to deal with the aftermath of someone who died because of drink-driving, you will wish you had spoken out earlier.
I speak from experience. The person I loved the most in the world thought he could drive after consuming a bottle of strong wine. He almost made it, but fell asleep at the wheel on the last leg of his journey, and died in a head-on crash. Try explaining to... |
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| | | The limit for driving should be reduced to zero, the everyone would know where they stand with the law. |
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| | | Over 5 drinks is a 'binge' so if i go to the pub during the day have 6 pits in as many hours whilst watching the football and having lunch or dinner, i'm am a weekend 'binge' drinker, what a load of _____!
Fact is that its the same it always has been, but the phobia is now worse, make everyone a criminal and you'll find that you have a load of criminals on your ... |
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| | M Cheeseman | |
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| | | I feel that recent claims and campaigning via supermarkets (Tesco/Asda etc) to increase off licence sales of alcohol will reduce or prevent young people and adults consuming alcohol in a risky way are unfounded. What evidence is there that increasing prices on alochol will do this? Also these supermarkets have a vested interest in increasing and agreeing a rise in prices... |
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| | Ian | |
| | | It would help if there was a minimum price for a unit of alcohol because it would stop the supermarkets ganging together to keep the price of alcohol so low that even kids with small amounts of pocket money can buy high strength booze -but also I heard that 20% of the average supermarket bill is for alcohol - so that... |
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| | | Just an opinion but i think that is important that the sons and daughters of alcoholics parents have the oppotunity they need to talk to someone about there problems. Children who may not have been phisically harmed by there parents might still be affected by their parents thirst. Binge drinkers can be just as bad as constant drinkers. I just feel like there is very little someone can do to t... |
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| | CC | |
| | | There is somewhere to go to talk to people who know what it's like to grow up in such a turbulant environment. I grew up in an alcoholic home and it's not the actual drink that affects me - it's the Jeckle and Hyde game of not knowing what that person will do next that got me - one minute nice, next minute all hell breaks loose. I go to a group called Al-Anon and it's changed my l... |
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I don't know if you have suffered as a child of an alcoholic but will assume that you don't know about Al-Anon. It is a worldwide organisation similar to Alcoholics Anonymous that supports friends and families of problem drinkers.
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| | Pauline | |
| | | It seems to us that it doesn't matter how many potential barriers you put in the way, people who want to binge drink will do it . It's socially acceptable and even required amongst certain groups of people. Their sole aim is to get out in the evening and get wasted as fast as they can; throw up; get home [ maybe] sleep it off and start again.
Has anyone been on a stag d... |
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| | Buck and Doe | |
| | | "What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed by wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?"
Is drinking among young people really that much more of a problem today than in years gone by?
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| | Rick | |
| | | Am very impressed to see a quote from Plato . . . (didn't think I'd come across one today!).
Does anything ever really change - and will it ever? |
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| | Jude | |
| | | In a society where drink is accepted as part of our social environment we have to except that certain people will always "go to far". In other words over indulge in whatever it may be.
We have to realise as a society that people who are vunerable or have an addictive personality will always become a victim of something whether it is alcohol, drugs, gam... |
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| | | Funnily enough, Plato said the same about education. He said you can't just legislate for everything, for little things like giving up your seat to an elderly person on the bus - or for people's lifestyles. Something our government needs to take to heart. |
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| | Graham | |
| | | Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder(FASD) is 100% preventable, its not hereditary or genetic. YET totally incurable!
There is no TWO women the same.
The only safe message is NIL alcohol in pregnancy.
Drinking in pregnancy can create a lifetime of problems for you and the child.
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| | FASawareUK | |
| | | I'm not a scientist or an expert on anything relating to alcohol, but I work with children. I see more and more children with ADHD, OCD, ADD etc and my theory is that this is related to FASD - or at least people drinking during pregnancy. Drinking whilst pregnant, or allowing children to drink alcohol under the age of 18 should be outlawed. People complain about kids dr... |
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| | | I agree that drinking heavily whilst pregenant is extremely irresponsible given the scientifically proven harm it can cause to the baby. However I would question the link with the rise in ADD & ADHD etc. My guess is that more people drank during pregnancy 30 or 40 years ago when the dangers were not as well researched or publicised (my 'older' friends support this!), so you would expect m... |
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| | Rick | |
| | | as an alochol worker in a london hostel for a number of years i witnessed the harm caused alochol and by these products in particular. the life expectancy of a dependednt drinker using these products aqt chronic levels ( 10 can a day and over) averaged at about 5 years. far lower that residents who used crack and heroin at chronic levels. most common cause of death was liver d... |
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| | p Mc evoy | |
| | | Can't you lot just leave us alone to get bladdered in peace.
Everyone knows Work is the curse of the drinking classes!!! |
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| | | There is a link between drink and class.
The middle classes have just as much of a drink problem as the other social stratas. A glass of wine here and there, a bottle with the evening meal. Stressful jobs.
No one class can be said to have a bigger problem than any other. |
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| | Rashid D | |
| | | drink drivers should be treated the same as murderers and be given a life sentence.. plenty of time to reflect... |
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| | vin diesel | |
| | | i agree they should be given life if they can drink and drive they should pay the time |
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| | | my stepson was killed by a driver over the limit whos last ban also for drink driving had expired the day before. He got 3 and half years Justice?? i think not |
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| | the oracle | |
| | | I wonder am I alone in thinking that less people would socilaise in pubs if there were suitable child-free alternatives?
There are times I would like to enjoy adult company and maybe listen to music or dance without alcohol but such places don't exist. I've tried meeting friends at coffee bars or bowling alleys but find the experience is often spoiled by ... |
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| | SC, MAnchester | |
| | | What a great idea! I've got kids but appreciate time away from them. Kid-free coffee bars sound ideal - until we learn that's bad for our health too. |
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| | Big D | |
| | | I don't think I understand. Why not just go to a pub, and dance and socialise, but not drink alcohol? You could just order a soft drink. |
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| | MR | |
| | | This isnt a joke! lol
For me an Alcoholic is someone when they pick up a drink, they cant put the stuff down or if when they try and stop drinking they cant (NOT necessarily drinking in the morning, drinking on a daily basis, living on the street, been to jail or in trouble with the police etc which is all stigma generated over the many years but at the same time though remebering that... |
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| | Daniel C, East Lancashire | |
| | | OK, we have 'know your limits' campaign for those who can put the drink down but what about the 'Knowing how to stop' campaing for those who dont know where, when and how to stop drinking or if they should stop drinking to make them get well.
Or do the government just want people to continue drinking despite them wanting to stop and continue the misery for the sufferer and those around t... |
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| | Daniel C, East Lancashire | |
| | | I wonder why anyone is trying to define the difference between alcoholic and binge drinker? Is it that public perception is that a binge drinker is more acceptable than an alcoholic?
In my opinion a binge drinker is a person who enjoys alcohol, believes it enhances their social encounters and helps them to relax. But alcohol is not at the core of their life. They can st...
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| | SC, Manchester | |
| | | Well i suppose for me binge drinking, as they measure it, is pretty vague but it clearly poses health risks and could be seen as a behaviour that can lead to alcoholism. I have many friends who drink far too much and others that get drunk but are sensible. Both would be classed as binge drinkers but i know who my money is on if i have to guess the potential alcoholics!
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| | AD | |
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Addict vs User
Its not how much you drink but whether you 'need' it or not. You can be an alcoholic and only have 1 drink a day (technically) and a heavy drinker but not an alcoholic. |
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| | | There has to be a better way of telling people about them. Is it me or do the adverts on the telly and the billboards make you think of getting a nice cooling glass of wine or beer. The pubs don't need to promote drinks because the units people are doing it for them |
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| | anon | |
| | | As is clear with the criminalisation of recreational drugs, limiting alcohol use, its availability or allowed places to consume it do not massively decrease the amount consumed and is tackling the wrong problematic area.
I know for a fact that alcohol related crimes and illnesses/deaths are far, far worse/more than say the lowest considered "dangerous" illegal drug, Cann... |
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| | | The positive benefits of alcohol are not publicised enough in terms of a relaxant and a 'social lubricant'. Plus it tastes good as well and quenches the thirst on a hot day like no other drink.
Why do we live in a guilt imposed society? It is the same with food, all we hear about is obesity and poor health. Food is brilliant, life enhancing, let's enjoy.
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| | Paddy D | |
| | | I agree.
Plus, the British are just middling when it comes to the European alcohol drinking tables, so why the panic? I bet those lucky drinkers in the Duchy of Luxy (remember 208m MW?) don't get all this nonsense from their Duke/Duchess or other leader type person, and they quaff loads* more booze than we do!
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| | Winston Smith | |
| | | Country Litres alcohol per person in 2003
Turkey 1.50
Mexico 4.60
Norway 6.00
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| | Winston Smith | |
| | | We have to advertise the negative aspects because people are stupid and don't understand the concept of "moderation". If we were all more sensible there wouldn't be such problems and we wouldn't have this need to remind people how bad it can be. |
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| | Cameron | |
| | | Cameron, people like you are not aware (and thats not because yuor stupid, just ignornant to the fact) of what an alcoholic is and the difference between an alcoholic and someone who knows when to stop.
The concept of moderation does not exist for someone who is addicted to drink as it is the first drink that sends off a craving for the next. Even before they pick a drink up they are men... |
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| | Daniel C East Lancashire | |
| | | Thanks Daniel C for your comments.
Trouble is that unless people have actually existed in that living hell or lived with an active alcoholic they are unlikely to see the ause for concern.
I agree that campaigns are limited in their usefulness because of the insidious nature of this illness - cunning baffling and powerful. I do think it is good to raise awreness and for more recoveri... |
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| | Catherine | |
| | | Water rehydrates, alcohol dehydrates.
I sincerely hope that alcohol long provides you with social lubrication.
If however you are one of the millions who steps over the line from heavy drinking to alcoholic drinking you may find that it no longer provides you with what you are seeking.
Alcohol dependency is nothing to do with liking the taste or quenching your thirst, nor is it... |
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| | | Further to my previous comment. Thank you for your replies.
I just have one more thing to add. As a useful analogy, I compare alcohol to fire.
You can concentrate on the bad things such as arson, house fires and fatalities. But, fire also brings warmth and saves lives as well. We don't try to ban fire just because of the bad ... |
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| | Paddy D | |
| | | Because we are facing a liver disease epidemic through alcohol abuse and obesity. Soon one in three people will have problems with their liver. That could be YOU |
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| | | I think alot off people drink in excess because they dont know how else to enjoy themselves and apart from that there is a big hype about not drinking but alternatives need to be advertised on what else to do instead. Dont get me wrong, I dont condone this. It is the society we live in. If people socialise they go to the pub. In my area I have wanted to go out and sit in a coffee ... |
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| | Anon | |
| | | You do not have to be drunk to socialise in a pub. It is illegal for the landlord to serve people in a drunken state.
They also sell coffee in pubs if that is what you want.
I frequent pubs a lot, so you are in effect saying I am a drunkard.
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| | | We are a nation of lager louts-renowned throughout Europe for our loutish drunken behaviour. Extended licensing hours has not turned us into a polite wine drinking society nor will it. Anyone who thought it would must be nuts! Strong %ABV drinks should be banned. Happy hours, 2 for 1 deals etc. should be banned. Small shops should not have licence to sell alcohol. Hike up the price/tax on boo... |
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| | Cath | |
| | | Why not encourage the existence of good quality nightclub settings which only serve low alcohol drinks. There is always the problem of people bringing in their own but this country needs to learn to enjoy life without alcohol.
Those places that only sell alcohol and have people just standing around are where they will get drunk because they have nothing better ... |
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| | Anne | |
| | | Take it your tee total then? Thats a very closed minded opinion. Yes there are a lot of lager louts around but what about the people who enjoy a casual drink with friends. Its the government who should sort things out and put strategies in place to stop the kids getting it not ban respomsible adults from enjoying themselves!!!!! |
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| | | Banning happy hours and drinks promotions is a daft idea. It means that people who want to drink responsibly and have a good time can't necessarily afford to. I think if people looked into the problem a little closer they would realise that the problem isn't alcohol, it's drugs. People would rather spend £1 on a tablet of ectasy than £3 on a pint, and this is where the problems begin. Where p... |
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| | Anon | |
| | | I agree with putting up taxes on alcohol and reducing the tax on petrol.
BUT England has always been a nation of binge drinking, and on the whole it is not the over 25's that are a problem.
We should bring the age limit up to 21 and over to drink alcohol. and harsher punishments on under age drinkers, don't just take the alcohol of... |
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| | Liam | |
| | | My name is Great Britain and Im an alcoholic, even though my governemnt wont admit it or recognise my illness!?! |
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| | Acceptance is the key! | |
| | | A social event for staff. Maybe a few drinks in local pubs, with a prize for drinking at all the pubs in the fastest time. Let’s call it a ‘Treasure Hunt’, sounds better than ‘Pub Crawl’. Some food as well (but not till after the drinks!). An innocent night out for hard-working employees.
The colleagues complete the ‘Treasure Hunt’, the ... |
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| | innocentvictim | |
| | | I couldn't agree more. And thank you for having the courage to share with us what happened to you. I hope and pray that others will take your advice to heart and rather than take the chance of having an accident when drunk would rather drink sensibly and not get drunk in the first place.
Thank you again. |
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| | | How about introducing a graduated taxation scale for alcoholic drinks? e.g. 1% ABV attracts a base line for taxation, say 10p per litre, then every %ABV increases by a corresponding amount, e.g. 2% = 20p and so on to 40% = £4. That way the cheaper drinks would be the weaker ones and do less damage to your health, so you could drink them in greater volumes, if that is your thing. |
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| | Winston Smith | |
| | | Sorry, but have you ever thought how a fat girl get to know of the ways of the world pre-18? Do not demonise them. For some lads its the only time they get lucky.
GO SWIMMING WITH THE WHALES. |
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| | Lara Gebones | |
| | | Stronger drinks are more expensive and so you do pay more tax.
RSH |
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| | | I feel that drinks such as this are produced by the industry soley for consumption by individuals with severe alcohol problems and underage drinkers.
These drinks can contain over 20 units in one bottle, for as little as 10p per unit!
Should our society allow such drinks to be sold in our communities largel... |
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| | Serge | |
| | | When I started drinking at 15 for 2 litres of strong cider was around £3.30. When I stopped in 2005 at the age of 29 the stronger white cider was £1.89 for 2 litres some 14 years later. I had bought it on promotion in 2004 at 89p for 2 litres, less than some brands of pop!!
When I look at the youth of today, most of them drink white cider, NOT ALCOPOPS, just like when I was a kid. Some... |
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| | Daniel C, East Lancashire | |
| | | I enjoy a drink from time to time. At one point it was getting out of hand, due to work stress- so I changed my job and my life. I still enjoy a drink, but no longer need one- which is a different thing entirely. Several times a week I am in Pubs and Clubs, but never have an alcoholic drink. Conversely, at weekends I do have the odd drink at home. Drink should be a part of a wider socia... |
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| | The common man | |
| | | Maybe one deterrent the government could use more is the high calorific value of alcohol. As soon as someone pointed out to me that a bottle of wine contains the same calories as 6 cream cakes, it certainly made me think about what I was consuming. Who fancies eating 6 cream cakes in one sitting? |
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| | Anon | |
| | | Is that an invite? I'm sorry but thinking like that will leave you eating nothing more than cardboard and wood shavings. Dear me, British society is really getting alittle mad! The government monitoring calories, next they'll be telling us what to read and which books are the right books and then get rid of the rest.
I agree with some previous postings personal responsiblity - look aft... |
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| | anon2 | |
| | | I think it would be a good idea to state the amount of calories on the bottles or cans that are being sold. I know when i look at a mars bar and see the calories it will deter me from eating it or instead i will just have a little but you wont catch me having more than that . And i feel it would be the same with alcohol or at least it would deter some from drinking as much.Especially the... |
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| | Di | |
| | | Well i think with this we need to look at the underlying factors of WHY people drink so much and not ban it everywhere, that don't work
It is like anything these days, No one wants to look at the factors that make people do things, just a knee jerk reaction to be seen to be doing something. Banning does NOT work, never has and never will
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| | Boggle | |
| | | I almost agree with you! I to have been drinking since a very young age, my parents never said no, and as a result Im responsible when I drink now, I think this is important as I'm in the age bracket of the binge drink (I'm 26), possibly a more European approach is needed to drinking, It's seen as a family/social occassion and not a time to get battered! |
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| | mighty mouse | |
| | | Whilst I agree that the health messages around the misuse of alcohol need to be hammered home, we don't talk about our soiety's attitude towards overworking and trying to achieve the impossible. Many of us use alcohol to help calm us down after a particulary stressful day. For many women the day starts very early with seeing that either our children or elderly relatives are cared for, wo... |
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| | | I must agree, the strain STRESS is the bigest factor for me.
The never ending relationship with the CSA .... who kindly pointed out to me that my ex will have expenses from his once per month overnight contact with our children... so therefore £200 per month from him is fair... I must remember to write and thank them for this info... |
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| | | ...I agree and whilst you may have good intentions and WANT to go out and do something more healthy like the gym (which lets face it would probably be a better stress reliever than alcohol), unless you've got family close to babysit, how are you going to do it? |
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| | | The issue isn't that you are asking for water at the bar, the issue is that when you go to the bar it is mostly 4 deepwith people! |
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| | Jo | |
| | | Just thought I'd add to the debate what I put in my feedback box:
I think it is outrageous that the Government seeks to re-classify soft drugs against the basis of the evidence and the advisory body, while totally ignoring the effects of alcohol on society, presumably because its friends in the hospitality industry would see reduced profits.
Ex... |
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| | The Captain | |
| | | WOW where do you live? The streets full of drunks and the sky falling in and brim stone and ash's all around! Seriously! I think the media news may just have played its role too effectively!
I totally agree with the terrorist comment and the rights comment. The liberal side of most people bang on about the erosion of our rights and then complain that there are people drinking to much,... |
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| | john | |
| | | ei ei, captain, I agree 110,000,000 %!!!!!!!! Where in a sinking ship at the moment with our government on how they are tackling this issue and need to change vessle quickly!
Alcohol is a drug so why is it always put in a different basket and much more heavily underfunded for treatment than 'illegal drugs' treament and yet generates £15 billion in tax and drugs generates nothing in tax... |
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| | Daniel C, East Lancashire | |
| | | i am 30 and when i was 15 myself and almost all my year at school got drunk on a friday night. This was done in the local parks, waste land etc... We would tended to drink cider, as it was cheep, we would save some of our lunch money to buy it. Also if a school disco was taking place everybody would ave a bottle of cider before they went. Also under age drinking was happe... |
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| | louise hill | |
| | | Here, here!!!!! I'm older again and yes I too used to drink from the age of 14. Drinking patterns haven't changed - I would say that it's peoples morals that have changed. We had respect for elders and parents years ago and wouldn't shout abuse across the street like they do today. We didn't damage property for fun - I mean, what fun? I firmly believe that it's not drink that has our teenager... |
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| | Xanda | |
| | | This could be why we have such a problem with underage drinking.
If a more open minded view of drinking alcohol was promoted within the family environment, this could be avoided, when young people are in their peer groups they usually learn bad habits not just with regard to alcohol but in many aspects of life,this is because they or learning from others with little know... |
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| | sober | |
| | | A quote from Hesiod, 8th century philosopher:
"I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependant on the youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words...When I was young we were taught to be discreet and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly disrespectful and impatient of restraint"
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| | Rick | |
| | | Why not have a ration card that has to be produced at point of sale? That way, HMG can keep tabs on what you are doing and step in if you exceed the recommended daily dose. The ration card could contain a nice photograph of the holder so that in the event of loss or theft, it couldn't be used by someone else. If the scheme works, it could be used on all sorts of things, such as tobacco produc... |
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| | Winston Smith | |
| | | A great idea! Lets have big brother keeping a closer eye on us, when are we going to say that the problems are some times the fault of the individual, we don’t need a new law or a new system or someone to look after us more than before, we just need people to take responsibility for what they are doing. If they drink too much and they want treatment refuse it! I'm getting sick of the molly co... |
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| | phil | |
| | | Hmm, developing the idea a bit further, perhaps the intervention needs to be 'more constructive'. let me explain; attainment of a set limit would not stop you from buying more of the product. For example, if you are limited to 'x' number of units of alcohol, but you purchase more than 'x', each purchase above that limit attracts in increased tariff to pay for the anticipated problems in ... |
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| | Winston Smith | |
| | | So if was for example going to a wedding, I know that I'll be drink a far amount, this to me seems a legitimate event even if I don’t drink to excess I will certainly be drink over the RDA, do I apply for a licence to do this? While I understand your concerns and also feel frustration about the amount of resources are expended on an issue that is as old as alcohol itself.
What is requi... |
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| | phil | |
| | | What a wonderful idea Winston. Of course it represents a political methodology practised by many successful countries across the world; Iran, Zimbabwe, North Korea,..... |
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| | | Instead of having to prove all the time that shops have sold to underagers just make the licences harder to get so that Alcohol is not redily available having worked in and around alcohol for the best part of 2 yrs I find it infuriating that getting a report about underage sales then going proving it is another matter just suspend them from trading they would soon stop, If kids are near or ou... |
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| | Denise | |
| | | I agree. Perhaps the Government should look at some of the policies in Sweden/Norway etc to help define how licenses in the UK should be harder to get hold of. There are far more small off licenses etc than there used to be.
This means more efforts are taken to bring in trade - including cheap booze, and serving people who are under age.
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| | George | |
| | | I have confronted and seen older people( so called adults) buy young people the drinks. I think some alcohol distributors, /sellers do try and responsibly, but they have no control over the idiots that buy it for kids. |
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| | Scott | |
| | | Spot on, But we're living in a "P,C" Brittain now, we can't be unfair now can we........ Muppets in number in 10 Jermery Clarkson for Prime-Minister !!! |
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| | Nathan, themadmonkey@live.co.uk | |
| | | What makes us think it is worse now than in the past? Every generation has this debate. The streets of the cities are still safer than in Victorian times. The State Brewery Scheme in Carlisle early last century was set up to try to solve the problem of drunkenness on the streets of Carlisle, Lady Carlisle bought country pubs, closed them down - and had cl... |
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| | Jayney | |
| | | Unfortunately the STATs indicate that alcohol related health problems AND crime are both on the rise throughout the UK. For example, in Newcastle, the number of people who drink submitted to A&E each year has increased from 683 people in 2000, to 1,1181 in 2006.
In a society where we are forking out for the NHS - as well as a number of stealth tax... |
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| | George | |
| | | In regards to the stat comment, that’s not really true as most historians will tell you. Stats from the Victorian period are at best kind of accurate and at worse simply made up! We simple get into a frenzy that stats have told us something about our society compared to the past, when a lot of the time they simply tell us that we can now gather stats better than before. |
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| | | I agree with you Janey.
We have had a history of drinking issues dating back centuries, probabley since the introduction of mead through the monasteries in the middle ages.
We are in danger of demonising drink rather than the behaviour that occurs from a minority of people who have had too much alcohol. Whether that is accute alcoholism or distruptive social behaviour ... |
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| | Rob | |
| | | I agree with Janey. I feel that this has always happened. Look at the temperance movement in the last century. The licencing laws brought in during the not so great war. Leave us drinkers alone and look to people who have problems with alcohol. |
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| | tgor | |
| | | I was under the impression the the brewery scheme in Carlisle was to stop workers in the munitions factories around the city getting tanked up, then blowing the place to smithereens whilst in an alcoholic daze. |
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| | Tony | |
| | | Jayney, I think that you are largely right, though I think that the nastiness of youth now makes the situation worse than in the Victorian era.
Certainly there was drunkenness, theft, and violence, but the violence was not on the scale seen today, and certainly between the second World War and today, City and Town Centres are now at their worst.
I do not blame alcohol.... |
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| | Norm | |
| | | I totally agree but whats bad about pushing to make things even better? |
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| | annon | |
| | | We are being encouraged in the media to drink water between alcholic drinks. The pubs and clubs should therefore be forced to prvide water coolers and disposable cups in the bathrooms, because NO-ONE will ever queue at the bar to ask for a glass of water!!!! |
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| | boozy 34 yr old!! | |
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| | | Good point Boozy. or at least make the non alcoholic drinks much much cheaper. £1.50 for a small coke! I'll have a pint of stella instead! |
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| | | I agree with this so much. Not many pubs I go in actually SELL water in bottles anyway, so it's either tap water or soda water. I think that water coolers are a great way to go. |
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| | suziQ | |
| | boozy 46 year old! | |
| | | What is your problem about asking for water at a bar? My friends and I do this regularly. I do not live within walking distance of a pub, so I have to take the car. I don't drink and drive. Only fools do that. I don't care what anyone thinks about the fact that I drink water. That is my choice. So what's the big deal? Some people have a not... |
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| | Someone who does not have an inferiority complex about buying water. | |
| | | totally agree, rest do it free, so why dont pubs |
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| | | and the cost of a bottle of water in the pubs are more than half a cider, it is actually dearer to stay sober when you go out.....
The powers that be should try reducing the cost of soft drinks if they want people to consume less alcohol. |
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| | | Lets stop demonising the kids that get access to alcohol and start suspending / terminating the licences of those that sell it to them.
Prosecute the over 18yrs olds that buy for or re-sell at inflated prices to the the underage.
Prosecute parents that allow alcohol from home to get into the hands of the underage drinkers.
If we want to live in... |
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| | | My children were permitted to have a very small glass of wine, at home with us and with a meal, well under 18 years of age. I also allowed them to try spirits - again in very small quantity. My children learned to respect alcohol and have never been 'nuisance drinkers'.
My view is that parents should be responsible for educating their offspring to th... |
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| | | When I was growing up (in the 1980s!), they used to say that you shouldn't drink spirits until you were 25 years old, because it would damage the liver. |
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| | Carey | |
| | | under age drinking has always happened, i did it myself and so did most of my mates and my parents and their mates. Although we were careful and made sure that we did not get caught, whereas the kids today tend to drink more openly. |
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| | louise hill | |
| | | That's true, kids are just responding and copying many others that they see behaving just as badly, i.e. on Ibiza nights, Big Brother, and in the streets, and think it's cool. We all need to look at our behaviour as a society and not accept that this type of madness is funny or acceptable. First step, take BB off the TV! |
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| | | Sorry, but have you ever thought how a fat girl get to know of the ways of the world pre-18? Do not demonise them. For some lads its the only time they get lucky.
GO SWIMMING WITH THE WHALES |
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| | Lara Gebones | |
| | | When I was 15 I used to go in pubs with my freinds nobody bothered we wanted to be adults , as such we drank responsibly albeit ilegally and never drank in parks etc .
If we ever got out of line one of the regulars would scold us . now we ID kids at every opportunity .
At 18 you can fight for your country but you cant buy alcohol without suffering the indignity of prov... |
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| | Mark S | |
| | | I totally agree the Police should find it easy to identify the offending Off- licences by the price stickers on cans and bottles which often carry the shops name. Some big fines and review of the licences would soon stop off-licences selling irresponsibly. |
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| | Ed | |
| | | Shut down the shops that sell the alcohol to them, not just a small fine.
Also for so called 'kids' that are 16 - 17, they should no better than to break the law so put them in ayouth offending institute for a year.
Also over 18's caught drinking on the street should be given a one year imprisonment. |
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| | Liam | |
| | | Shut down the shops that sell the alcohol to them, not just a small fine.
Also for so called 'kids' that are 16 - 17, they should no better than to break the law so put them in ayouth offending institute for a year.
Also over 18's caught drinking on the street should be given a one year imprisonment. |
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| | Liam | |
| | | Shut down the shops that sell the alcohol to them, not just a small fine.
Also for so called 'kids' that are 16 - 17, they should no better than to break the law so put them in ayouth offending institute for a year.
Also over 18's caught drinking on the street should be given a one year imprisonment. |
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| | Liam | |
| | | Surely what we need is education within the home whereby our children see us as adults drinking responsibly preferably with food eg famly mealtimes and giving our older children (say 14 and over) supervised access to lower strength alcoholic drinks such as wine and low strength beers. This will remove the aura of excitement/breaking the rules that surrounds drinking by children curr... |
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| | David Rudd | |
| | | Willow tel:01942 679300 offer support to women with alcohol dependency and also support to families - advice/counselling/holistic treatments/group support - I received much support trying to cope with a family member who binge drinks, their health + quality of life is a constant worry - the stress affects the whole family |
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| | anon | |
| | | Whilst I don't drink I wouldn't want to spoil the enjoyment of those "Adults" who enjoy a drink socially (in moderation of course!). However, as I am sure you sensible Adults will agree the word "Adult" does not mean all adults are sensible. How do you sensible "Adults" feel about licensing "Drinking" Applying a volume limit to retail ... |
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| | D. | |
| | | Are you suggesting that everyone over 18 gets granted a licence for drinking and when they are stopped by the police for drunk and disorderly behavior or convicted of alcohol related crime that the licence is withdrawn! Radical, but what about their rights to go and get plastered and cause trouble. (Tounge in cheek comment) |
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| | tgor | |
| | | People enjoy a drink most do so safely.
The price of alcohol in pubs is too high closing large numbers every week.The pub was the local social safety net where conduct and behaivour was monitored.
There is a camaign to increase the price of alcohol by the Government, killjoys and health industry. This must be resisted.
The answer is education reg... |
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| | John. | |
| | | I totally agree. I drink at home most evenings with friends and family we never end up fighting or drink driving. As John pointed out alcohol is cheaper on the continent and they do not experiance the problems we do in Britian. This shows that alcohol is only the symptom of a social problem not necessarily the cause |
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| | Ken. | |
| | | I am totally with you on this one, I am of the strong belief that the vast majority of us are sensible drinkers. I go out only once a week and am classed as a binge drinker, this really gets to me; what do they want me to do drink every day, I do not have the time or the money to do that; I just like to go out once a week and socialise. I think that whoever 'created' the word bing... |
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| | Totally Annoyed with being called a binger | |
| | | HERE HERE . I LOVE A DRINK AND SOMETIMES GET DRUNK. I DONT FIGHT OR DAMAGE PROPERTY AND AT WORST OCCASIONALLY SING A SONG , EAT A KEBAB AND GO TO BED. STOP TRYING TO MAKE ME FEEL GUILTY FOR ENJOYING A PLEASURE I WORK BLOODY HARD FOR JUST COS A FEW BITS OF KIDS CANT HANDLE THEIR ALCOPOPS. |
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| | NEIL | |
| | | Agree completely with the comments here. I would suggest that it is the same people week in week out that cause all the aggro and that it is nothing to do with the (Reasonably) sensible social drinker. Pubs are far to expensive for many people now and drinking at home means you have no real way of knowing how much you have drunk as no measures. Bring back the cheap pub! |
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| | tgor | |
| | | When you get health problems, due to drinking too much (which are on the increase at alarming rates) you cost the NHS (us as taxpayers) a lot of money. This debate is not just about anti-social behaviour, it is also about the nations health.
Drink by all means, but be aware you increase the risk of a lot of illness and disease by doing so and take responsibility... |
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| | | The Health Industry gives out information that drinking too much alcohol can be dangerous and lead to health problems. They don't tell anyone to stop drinking (unless for medical reasons).
They give information and advice - not rules. (even though NHS workers are assaulted every day by drunks).
They are not killjoys.
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| | NHS worker | |
| | | so does that mean only the rich can afford to drink in pubs? sennsible drinkers are punished? do they think alcoholics will be priced out of the market? VERY unlikely - what a simple world the govt must live in to think that this would work or that it is fair. Many poor people, homeless people, young people with no earnings are alcohollics, they will find a way of getting alcohol ev... |
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| | AM | |
| | | The government do not seem to want sencible drinking in pubs. They would sooner their palls, the supermarket owners make more money.
RSH |
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| | | Everything you posted was ok, apart from the misconception you have that most people drink safetly. i'm afraid the opposite is true. With a bit more education from the government lets hope we can make what you said actually true |
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| | | Yeah, let's enjoy a drink! That is, A drink. Yum, savour that liquid as it slips down your throat. Good, isn't it? Goodnight. |
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| | | Why are so many corner shops issued with a licence to sell booze? I believe this is part of the problem our towns have with young people boozing on the streets, booze is too easily available to them usually sold to them by their school colleagues working in the evenings/saturdays etc; who wouldn't dare refuse them for fear of reprisals at school. Withdraw a large proportion of boo... |
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| | Pauline Silker | |
| | | I broadly agree. I suspect it is off licences that significaly contribute towards underage drinkers getting their hands on alcohol. Laws should be more severe for adults who purchase or supply underage drinkers with alchohol. The purchase of alochol should be done in such a way where the purchaser is known and the purchase can be traced to them. However, adults make a significant contribution... |
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| | VT | |
| | | Raise the drinking age to 21, as in the USA. Allow only pubs/clubs and off-licences (although that does not mean having a Bargain Booze" on every street corner). If need be slap on more tax as has been done with cigarettes. That would price it out of reach for the youngsters. |
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| | VB | |
| | | Well said Pauline, my sentiments entirely, there are to many shops with a licence putting a large part of the blame on the people who are swayed to give out licences.
And any shop caught selling alcohol to minors should be closed down irrespective of livelyhood, and that would solve half of the problem at a stroke, we have always had the laws we only need someone to have the ... |
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| | Robert | |
| | | Stop selling alcohol in corner stores and super markets. Create liquor stores and Beer stores where only adults are allowed in and only adults can be employed.
Stop silly happy hours and keep the price of alcohol in pubs and wine bars which have good restrictions on age and alcohol limits. |
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| | | There is not a problem with alcohol. The problem lies with a lack of personal control. I am not being holier than thou, I have fallen foul of too much to drink because it "felt good at the time", peer pressure and all the other excuses. External pressures don't help either, not do critiscism from friends/family without the addition ofoffers of help, understanding. Coping with alcoho... |
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| | Dave | |
| | | i agree dave very good points are made here. |
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take, if need be get on the 12 step programme it is your thoughts that control you!! |
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| | Andrew | |
| | | New campaign in London this week might get the ladies thinking. Apologies to the lady in the picture - I don't mean to offend with this comment, but I think the Drug and Alcohol Service could have found a 'model' to whom more of us could relate.
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| | | www.al-anonuk.org.uk Support for friends and families of alcoholics or problem drinkers. For information please call 020 7403 0888 or check out the web address |
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| | Anon | |
| | | As a mother of 2 teenagers (late) if feel they were under a great amount of pressure from friends when they were about 14-16yrs, and a lot of parents thinks their children/teenagers are mini versions of themselves. THEY ARE NOT try and keep them away from drink, do not approve of it. |
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| | mother of 2 | |
| | | I kind of agree - but I liked the way my parents handled drink with both my sister and I.
If they had a glass of wine with dinner we could have a small drop in the bottom of a glass with lemonade. If they had a lager we would have very weak shandies. This was from being about 10 yrs onwards.
By the time we were 16, drink was ... |
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| | JW Bradford | |
| | | As the mother of 2 teenage boys..........my eldest is 18 and only drinks very occasionally and sensibly...for now! My youngest is an immature 15 and i was horrified that his 12 year old friend's Mum gave the two of them 4 bottles of Wkd and a full bottle of red wine when they were on a sleepover at her house! I was not asked prior to this if my son was allowed alcohol and he has never s... |
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| | Julia O'Connor | |
| | | I agree with JW, both my kids from being around 12 were allowed to have a VERY small mount of alcohol at family accasions, it made them feel grown up and neither of them are heavy drinkers now they are old enough to drink.
But in responce to Julie although I allowed my kids to drink I would have NEVER given alcohol to someone else's child even if it was with prior consent from the... |
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| | | If they were busy with other activities, they wouldnt have the time, need or desire to hang around getting drunk. |
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| | | The media keep going on about teenagers drinking - but where are the parents in all of this?
Why should I, or anyone have to be penalised with higher alcohol prices or restrictions because some parents can't be bothered to monitor their kids? But then I suppose that is what is wrong with society these days. Nobody is taking responsibility for their children. Time and time again ... |
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| | vanbed | |
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| | IT Man | |
| | | this is down to the parents and hoe they bring there children up, in euorp children are allow drink with meal at a young age and therefore when moving into their late teens they dont think of binging |
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| | | I am a parent of 4 children. My youngest girl is one of those binge drinkers. She is 17 and although we do try to know where she is and who she is with - kids lie. We have not brought her up to be an agressive abusive binge drinker. Her normal attitude to us is one of complete contempt. I am a Christian and have tried to teach her some ground rules. She has no job and reguarly steals money fr... |
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| | | I understand what you are saying, but unfortunately you are in the minority and at lot of these kids parents have not bothered to try and teach thier offspring any morals/manners, you only have to see how they act themselves.
Good luck with your daughter, if you cannot make her see sence all you can do is be there to pick up the peices, as I am sure you will be.... |
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| | | The current TV campaigns seem to suggest that if people knew how much they were drinking they might moderate or stop. Smokers have known smoking kills for decades but it was only when smokers were accused of impacting on other people's lives (passive smoking), making it socially unacceptable and subsequent laws to protect the non-smoker come into force that things changed.
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I am so sorry that you have such a poor understanding of why people drink. People drink for a massive range of reasons. To an alcoholic dependant person, like anyone who is an addict, they only care about there next drink of alcohol. Even when they are shown the effects on others and the effect on themselves it will have no effect. They may be remorseful an... |
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| | robert stoke | |
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I don't disagree with your comments that an alcohol dependent drinker making a choice to stop is better than one being forced to but not really wanting to. However, I do think that for most people who are dependent on alcohol (or drugs), their ability to be able to make any sort of choice is impaired by their addiction.
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| | LR | |
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I agree in principle, with your comparative abservation re smoking and drinking. The adults should have a duty to set a good example for the kids. Spending money on the invisible threats is all well and good, but the visible and measurable damage caused by alcohol is far more relevant today in Britain, and the government needs to conce... |
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| | Evie | |
| | | Is anyone else concerned about the calories in alcohol? Specifically, do you think it would be useful if they were displayed on bottles?
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| | | Oh yes indeedy ! It's too easy to convince (!) yourself that there are no calories when nothing is displayed. Also it is easy to say 'a glass of wine is about 100 calorie' - oh yes - a 100 ml glass might be but a goldfish bowl size glass certainly isn't !!!!! |
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| | Samantha Lesley | |
| | | I would like to see that calorific content of alcohol as I have had to go online and search for this info - maybee the trafic light system which has been put on food should be extended to alcohol also |
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| | | Young girls may care.
Not sure it will work though. Cigarettes have had health warnings for years.
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| | | I couldn't agree more! I'm ALWAYS on a diet and personally I would rather have the calories in my food than in a glas of 'liquid'. I find it very annoying when my husband takes it for granted that I will drive home every time. I can take or leave a drink but by doing so I feel as though I'm just giving him the go ahead. |
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| | June | |
| | | It would be very useful to have the energy values displayed on all alcoholic drinks, as many people fail to realise just how many calories are in them. Energy values are not displayed on products, as manufacturers may feel that people could turn to alternative drinks with lower calorific values. This could damage their industry in financial terms. Fo... |
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| | Anne from Newton | |
| | | Yes, why don't we have nutritional information on booze? If it was on, there would be a lot less imbibing. It may encourage some quaffing though! |
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| | Winston Smith | |
| | | put calories and ingredients on alcohol and we can all make our own minds up wether we participate!! excellent idea!!!!!!!!!! |
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| | amanda | |
| | | On our local buses, there is an advertisement showing how many donuts, etc. so many drinks are worth. It's certainly an eye-opener. |
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| | | France is planning to ban happy hours in bars in a bid to stem the rise of binge drinking. The government proposals follow calls from doctors and politicians to tackle excessive alcohol consumption. The cross-ministry report, which was leaked to the press, also calls for a ban on the sale in nightclubs of bottles of strong alcohol, including spirits, and raising tax levels on... |
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| | | To a degree. But we need a major culture shift too. Getting hammered is the normal thing to do at the weekend for many people. Happy Hours just make that cheaper. |
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| | | Banning stops nothing....lets all be adult about this and make people take responsibility for their own drinking.
Blundering around like an over protective parent will achieve nothing....lets all grow up shall we?
Guns are banned....they are still around
drugs are banned....they are increasing in use.
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| | | I don't believe that banning happy hours will stop binge drinkers. They want to binge drink and will do so regardless.
If I go out with friends for a relaxing drink I will try to fins somewhere offering happy hour prices to keep down the costs. I would be aggrieved if this were stopped for such false pretences.
Happy hours and prom... |
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| | K | |
| | | Yes, it only encourages drinking more because it feels like a bargain, it's wrong to encourage drinking once a person has had a couple they haven't as much judgement - then if it's cheap they drink more... |
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| | | yes absolutely the problem with alcohol has gone skyward since 24 hour drinking sessions were introduced.cheap booze should also be banned.bring back the days of pubs opening hours 7 til 11 and 12 til 3.early closing on sunday.most people were normal then.if you dangle a strawberry in front of a donkey its gonna eat it!! an alcy doesnt count how many drinks hes had. |
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| | | I was under the impession that happy hours were banned a number of years ago.
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| | | A MULTIMILLION pound scheme has been launched to halt serious alcohol problems before they take hold in drinkers who are unaware they are exceeding safe limits.
Doctors, nurses and dentists across Scotland will be trained to quiz thousands of patients about their drinking habits and offer counselling to those breaching safe levels.
Do you think random alcohol... |
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| | | Does it work? Does it make people drink less? |
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| | | random screening of who? my cousing works on the London underground and is regularly screened. I would like this extended to other workers who have as much responsibility or more for people's safety. Such as the doctors and nurses supposed to be carrying out the screening.
I am in favour of screening for the members of the public who wish to be scree... |
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| | David | |
| | | Great idea but in my experience people who drink too much or have a problem lie about it. I lived with someone who would swear they had not been drinking and could hardly stand up. |
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| | | I wonder what we should think about the likes of Everton and Liverpool football clubs using children as a mass advertising campaign to advertise alcohol.
Both teams sell tens of thousands of shirts to our kids every year with their alcohol sponsors emblazoned across their chests effectively using these children as advertising hordings.
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| | Anon | |
| | | This is a really valid observation.... the sporting and alcohol industries are perverse bedfellows.. you only have to see the frantic activity around the drinks aisles in supermarkets when a big game is on to despair |
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| | Jen | |
| | | wonder how Liverpool's policy of advertising alcohol on kids shirts sits with Jamie Carragher's new healthy food drive |
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| | John | |
| | | Alcohol advertising has absolutely no place in sport yet the industries are so closely linked there is little chance of engendering corporate responsibility here |
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| | Phil | |
| | | Why do we allow alcohol advertising at all - the advertising of cigarettes was banned??!!??
Also, look at the health warnings on a packet of cigs, should there not be a drive to have similar on drinks containers? If you look at a can of lager, you don't even get info about how many units it contains!!!!! |
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Have to agree. It's not long ago that sports were sponsored by cigarette companies (e.g. the John Player League, the Benson & Hedges Cup), but they were outlawed several years ago and the sports have survived with different sponsors. Alcohol does little better than cigarettes as far as a healthy lifestyle is concerned (well, at least a glass of red wine a day is good for your hear... |
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| | | I am a school nurse and talk to young people each week. I speak to those who have got into trouble in the community or been to A&E because of drinking too much alcohol. Alot of the young people I speak to(not just the ones who end up in trouble), tell me that they love drinking, it is exciting and enables them to socilaise with other young people in the community. Most that... |
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| | Kip | |
| | | I have had similar experiences to Kip, and I agree that it is essential to ask young people about their binge drinking. Some of them have said that they do it for excitement and to escape from reality. They have also said because they were drunk they cannot remember what happened, and use this to excuse their behavior. Young girls of 14 and 15 have asked for emergency contraception... |
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| | Ex NHS employee | |
| | | I am A school Nurse too and would have to agree with Kip....young people like to drink, the main excuse seems to be boredom 'there's nothing to do etc', my argument would be that 20 - 30 years ago (way before I was born :) ) there was probably 'nothing to do' for young people but there was no problem with alcohol etc because if your parents caught you out drinking you would probably have... |
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| | rubee | |
| | | I frimly believe that now teenagers need to show proof of id in pubs that we have just moved them to the streets.
In the 60's, 70's, 80's and earlier many teenagers went to the pub underage drinking. We all did it or tried to anyway. Although there was trouble as there is now, many of the underage kids wouldn't step out of line for fear of being caught underage drinking. They coul... |
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| | | If the police pulled thier finger out and policed the streets properly we would not have kids/adults drinking in them..
And making life hell for the so called people that we need in Blackpool. i.e. familys and couples , it is about time the police made it safe for familys to walk around without getting the likes of drunking hen/stag party people dropping thier trousers or pu... |
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| | | Yes, young adults always slipped into pubs and I am sure it learned them how to behave, but as for being turfed onto the street, whats wrong with that : that is all we had 50yrs ago and we all had a good time playing games with each other, Tig. Rounders, Cricket, or walking from one side of town to the other just to play football on the playing fields. The kids to... |
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| | R | |
| | | I agree - but this is clearly something bigger than kids just going to the pub. This is about a whole range of issues including:
(some) parents who are now the first-generation binge-drinkers of the 1990s,
kids thinking they are adults before they actually are
Culture/media/computer games etc&nbs... |
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| | Carey | |
| | | Foetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder(FASD) is 100% preventable with education and awareness. Its not hereditary or genetic. YET totally incurable
There are now two women the same.
The only safe message is NIL alcohol in pregnancy.
Drinking in pregnancy can create a lifetime of problem... |
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| | FASawareUK | |
| | | In a poll carried out by Sky.com earlier this year, Amy Winehouse topped the list which asked under 25s to name their top female in the public eye. She beat Angelina Jolie, Victoria Beckham and Kylie Minogue!
If young people are inspired by this kind of behaviour, its no wonder we're in trouble. Alcoholism and drug addiction are being glamorised ... |
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| | KC | |
| | | I totally agree with the comments made by KC and no doubt countless other people do too. The recording companies themselves should be made to drop them instantly and revoke any enhancements they may have recieved, then be made unemployed. Then & only then they may realise what the real world is about. Thinking about it though, if I were to come into work smacked up or pi**ed maybe I ... |
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| | MT | |
| | | I wonder who would have been a female role model when I was young. Probably Madonna... |
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| | | If you want to see people drinking at the drop of a hat, during the day, everyday, during the nights, every night and at home....look no further than Coronation Street. |
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| | Elliot | |
| | | I fully agree. Soap characters always seem to be able to afford alcohol and see drinking at lunch times and after work as the norm. The consequences of violent incidents in public houses is minimised. |
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| | pat | |
| | | what a load of bollocks are you saying that watching coronation St makes you drink get a life man stop looking to hang this fad onto something, look no further than yourself YOU DO HAVE A CHOICE drink or not to drink that is the question !! you should be asking yourself |
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| | Andrew | |
| | | No one is suggesting that watching soaps such as Coronation Street 'makes' anyone drink! However, Coronation St, East Enders and the rest show almost all the adults meet in the local pub and drink on a daily basis. I have never seen anyone ask for a bottle of water or a Coke! This conveys the idea to children and young people that this is what adults do - they go to the pub and drink alcohol.... |
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| | SC, Manchester | |
| | | non alcohol beers should be much cheaper so to encourage none drinking or diluted alcohol content intake |
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| | mark | |
| | | If the government want people not to drink they should bring down the cost of soft drinks as these tend to be more expensive than alcohol and increase the price of alcohol. |
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| | The driver | |
| | | Chepaer soft drinks nice idea but why should a retailer really see their profits wiped out?
I guess again its how a company values its customers, better pubs will look after people others just see it as a commodity to generate money and sales |
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| | Ian | |
| | | non alcoholic beers will not discourage drinking... people usually buy alcohol to get drunk therefore in this sense cheaper non alcholic drinks may benefit those that buy them in the first place but will not attract those looking for a drink that makes them drunk! |
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| | | Absolutely! non alcoholic beer and soft drinks prices are a scandal and do not encourage drinking soft drinks etc as a realistic option. |
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| | Walt | |
| | | I totally agree with this. If soft drinks were cheaper then it would encourage us to mix the two thereby reducing our alcohol intake. Also it encourages car drivers to drink alcolhol free drinks. |
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| | Linda | |
| | | I am sick and tired of being made to feel like a bore because I don't drink. If I go to friend's homes or out for a meal or to a party I am inevitably offered a drink, and I very rarely want one. Why isn't it acceptable to say no? Then I get 'go on, just the one...' which is almost like 'I dare you..' I don't drink because I don't like the taste or the affect that 'just one' will have on... |
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| | Bea | |
| | | I agree Bea. After my years at Uni, alcohol just doesn't appeal to me as much anymore and I often find myself refusing drinks when I go out, or at family gatherings, just because I prefer a nice pint of lime and lemo and not suffering the hangover in the morning! I love it, have a fantastic night out, and no repercussions (usually!).
My fiancé is from a big Iris... |
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| | BM | |
| | | Well said Bea!
It's typical of our country's imature attitude to alcohol that we are judged to be boring or unable to enjoy anything at all without some form of alcoholic drink.
This probably stems from the fact that there is very little alternative to the pub/club social culture that exists in this country (especially in terms of evening/night-time activities) -... |
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| | Anon | |
| | | One area of drinking which really concerns me is the amount of heavy "social drinking" that is done by adults who are supposed to be in charge of their own children at the same time; whether on holiday or just in their own home. No-one seems to discuss this as it is a tricky grey area to limit, I suppose. Not only are kids watching and learning how to binge dri... |
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| | | The main raeson for people drinking more is because it is so much cheaper, in real terms, than ten years ago. Supermarkets always have offers on and drinking at home has become the norm for me as a 42 year old with a stressful job! |
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| | someone who knows he should drink less | |
| | | My partner has the same attitude as you. I f only you would both wake up, There's more to life than drink. |
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| | | I'm currently pregnant & have found it quite strange not drinking on nights out. Sitting round in a pub or in someone's house now seems very boring & unimaginative to me & I've been trying to come up new things to do that are more interactive. I've been to comedy nights, concerts, pub gigs & am looking forward to going to 3 of the more... |
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| | Lynsey (NHS) | |
| | | I find it really sad that this person intends to drink again after her pregnancy. She has already found out that she is doing something moronic with her friends...why continue like a sheep, when she has had her eyes opened? It IS possible to enjoy a night out without getting drunk. Just watching other people drunk is enough entertainment! |
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